Comments on: WHS Version 2 – Between June and December 2008 http://mswhs.com/2008/02/08/whs-version-2-between-june-and-december-2008/ A server for the people !!! Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:10:29 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Philip H http://mswhs.com/2008/02/08/whs-version-2-between-june-and-december-2008/#comment-9924 Philip H Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:42:01 +0000 http://mswhs.wordpress.com/2008/02/08/whs-version-2-between-june-and-december-2008/#comment-9924 I just brought my WHS, so if they do release version 2, better hope its a free upgrade like MS did with Vista. I'm Not planning on buying another WHS for a while. I say - keep working on v1 for the time being - get it right, and provide continued updates/new functions. I just brought my WHS, so if they do release version 2, better hope its a free upgrade like MS did with Vista. I’m Not planning on buying another WHS for a while.

I say – keep working on v1 for the time being – get it right, and provide continued updates/new functions.

]]> By: Philip Churchill http://mswhs.com/2008/02/08/whs-version-2-between-june-and-december-2008/#comment-7311 Philip Churchill Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:00:56 +0000 http://mswhs.wordpress.com/2008/02/08/whs-version-2-between-june-and-december-2008/#comment-7311 Hi James C, PowerPack1 (a bit like a service pack but with extra features too) for WHS will be available later this year and Version 2 of WHS sometime before 2009. Hi James C,
PowerPack1 (a bit like a service pack but with extra features too) for WHS will be available later this year and Version 2 of WHS sometime before 2009.

]]> By: James C. http://mswhs.com/2008/02/08/whs-version-2-between-june-and-december-2008/#comment-7296 James C. Wed, 20 Feb 2008 07:56:44 +0000 http://mswhs.wordpress.com/2008/02/08/whs-version-2-between-june-and-december-2008/#comment-7296 I thought I read somewhere a "significant" update would come in the second half of the year, not necessarily a new version. I interpreted the vNext as a "AppleTV Take Two" type thing. That was my interpretation... I could be completely wrong though. I thought I read somewhere a “significant” update would come in the second half of the year, not necessarily a new version. I interpreted the vNext as a “AppleTV Take Two” type thing.

That was my interpretation… I could be completely wrong though.

]]> By: Jay http://mswhs.com/2008/02/08/whs-version-2-between-june-and-december-2008/#comment-7266 Jay Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:28:03 +0000 http://mswhs.wordpress.com/2008/02/08/whs-version-2-between-june-and-december-2008/#comment-7266 I have it on pretty good advice that the product team is still investigating whether to go with Windows 2008 or Windows 7 (which will delay it until 2009). There is some issue with the considerable amount of work required to support all the mulimedia integration if they go with 2008. This would be much easier with Windows 7 apparently. I have it on pretty good advice that the product team is still investigating whether to go with Windows 2008 or Windows 7 (which will delay it until 2009).
There is some issue with the considerable amount of work required to support all the mulimedia integration if they go with 2008. This would be much easier with Windows 7 apparently.

]]> By: trowhill http://mswhs.com/2008/02/08/whs-version-2-between-june-and-december-2008/#comment-7227 trowhill Fri, 15 Feb 2008 00:40:09 +0000 http://mswhs.wordpress.com/2008/02/08/whs-version-2-between-june-and-december-2008/#comment-7227 Everyone needs to keep in mind that Server 2008 is 64bit only. Everyone needs to keep in mind that Server 2008 is 64bit only.

]]> By: Jody Banks http://mswhs.com/2008/02/08/whs-version-2-between-june-and-december-2008/#comment-7180 Jody Banks Mon, 11 Feb 2008 18:23:23 +0000 http://mswhs.wordpress.com/2008/02/08/whs-version-2-between-june-and-december-2008/#comment-7180 I just received an email message from HP, as I bought their HP EX475 model using WHS. It states the following... You should not directly open and/or edit files that are stored on the MediaSmart Server while doing any other activity such as large data transfers or media streaming. If you are doing a large data transfer or streaming and need to edit a file on the server, you should first copy the file over to a PC and then open it for editing. There are a few key applications that Microsoft has identified that can cause this issue when files are opened and edited directly from the server. However to be safe, HP recommends that you not open/edit files directly from the server until this fix is delivered. So you see the data corruption issues is actually worse than MS points out, as every file is indicated NOT to be open/edit directly from WHS! What good is WHS is your data gets corrupted? This defeats the whole purpose of using WHS, for both backup protection and for file sharing... I just received an email message from HP, as I bought their HP EX475 model using WHS. It states the following…

You should not directly open and/or edit files that are stored on the MediaSmart Server while doing any other activity such as large data transfers or media streaming. If you are doing a large data transfer or streaming and need to edit a file on the server, you should first copy the file over to a PC and then open it for editing.

There are a few key applications that Microsoft has identified that can cause this issue when files are opened and edited directly from the server. However to be safe, HP recommends that you not open/edit files directly from the server until this fix is delivered.

So you see the data corruption issues is actually worse than MS points out, as every file is indicated NOT to be open/edit directly from WHS!

What good is WHS is your data gets corrupted? This defeats the whole purpose of using WHS, for both backup protection and for file sharing…

]]> By: Bob Liptrot http://mswhs.com/2008/02/08/whs-version-2-between-june-and-december-2008/#comment-7175 Bob Liptrot Mon, 11 Feb 2008 14:11:43 +0000 http://mswhs.wordpress.com/2008/02/08/whs-version-2-between-june-and-december-2008/#comment-7175 Yes, I would love to see some new features laster this year....and moving to 2008 core sooner rather than later would be great. I agree it would be godd to make the move before the installed base gets too big. But..they have to fix this data corruption bug soon. I read the description of the error and thought it would not impact me much as my server is not under a heavy load. I put one of my onenote shared notebooks on the server and it corrupted very quickly. I am growing concerned that it is taking so long to fix such a major bug. Yes, I would love to see some new features laster this year….and moving to 2008 core sooner rather than later would be great. I agree it would be godd to make the move before the installed base gets too big.

But..they have to fix this data corruption bug soon. I read the description of the error and thought it would not impact me much as my server is not under a heavy load. I put one of my onenote shared notebooks on the server and it corrupted very quickly. I am growing concerned that it is taking so long to fix such a major bug.

]]> By: Graham Jones http://mswhs.com/2008/02/08/whs-version-2-between-june-and-december-2008/#comment-7164 Graham Jones Sat, 09 Feb 2008 18:21:52 +0000 http://mswhs.wordpress.com/2008/02/08/whs-version-2-between-june-and-december-2008/#comment-7164 I wouldn't hold your breath about seeing v2 this year. MSFT are hardly likely to switch to the Server 2008 kernel before it has been thoroughly "bashed". Logically v2 will be 64 bit and based on Server 2008 but what features to add has to be a challenge. There has been such a large number of wide ranging suggestions. Further they will want to "harden" v1 to remove any lingering concerns, file corruption for example. MSFT have taken it very seriously and like everyone I hope a solution will be forthcoming soon. It has not affected me (it really is very low risk) but it is holding back acceptance for some people and therefore people deriving the great benefits of WHS in general. Besides they haven't even actually released Power Pack 1 yet. I wouldn’t hold your breath about seeing v2 this year. MSFT are hardly likely to switch to the Server 2008 kernel before it has been thoroughly “bashed”. Logically v2 will be 64 bit and based on Server 2008 but what features to add has to be a challenge. There has been such a large number of wide ranging suggestions. Further they will want to “harden” v1 to remove any lingering concerns, file corruption for example. MSFT have taken it very seriously and like everyone I hope a solution will be forthcoming soon. It has not affected me (it really is very low risk) but it is holding back acceptance for some people and therefore people deriving the great benefits of WHS in general. Besides they haven’t even actually released Power Pack 1 yet.

]]> By: Home Server Blog » Blog Archive » WHS Version 2 zwischen Juni und Dezember 2008??? http://mswhs.com/2008/02/08/whs-version-2-between-june-and-december-2008/#comment-7161 Home Server Blog » Blog Archive » WHS Version 2 zwischen Juni und Dezember 2008??? Sat, 09 Feb 2008 11:38:17 +0000 http://mswhs.wordpress.com/2008/02/08/whs-version-2-between-june-and-december-2008/#comment-7161 [...] Windows Home Server Version 2? Wann? Wo? Was ist das? Genau das haben wir uns auch gefragt, als wir diesen Artikel bei Phillip Churchill gelesen haben. Er bezieht sich wiederum auf andere Blog Artikel und [...] [...] Windows Home Server Version 2? Wann? Wo? Was ist das? Genau das haben wir uns auch gefragt, als wir diesen Artikel bei Phillip Churchill gelesen haben. Er bezieht sich wiederum auf andere Blog Artikel und [...]

]]> By: Jon’s Geek Stuff … & Stuff » WHS Version 2 - Between June and December 2008 http://mswhs.com/2008/02/08/whs-version-2-between-june-and-december-2008/#comment-7156 Jon’s Geek Stuff … & Stuff » WHS Version 2 - Between June and December 2008 Fri, 08 Feb 2008 21:10:59 +0000 http://mswhs.wordpress.com/2008/02/08/whs-version-2-between-june-and-december-2008/#comment-7156 [...] WHS Version 2 - Between June and December 2008 [...] [...] WHS Version 2 – Between June and December 2008 [...]

]]> By: Kitty Russell http://mswhs.com/2008/02/08/whs-version-2-between-june-and-december-2008/#comment-7154 Kitty Russell Fri, 08 Feb 2008 20:23:25 +0000 http://mswhs.wordpress.com/2008/02/08/whs-version-2-between-june-and-december-2008/#comment-7154 Early adapters were mostly beta testers, as the WHS product still remains with many issues, all based upon Windows Server 2003 with the additional lame WHS management console and suspected WHS Drive Extender code causing data corruption. www.support.microsoft.com/kb/946676 Hopefully Microsoft will get WHS v2 working without data corruption! But as for upgrades from WHS RTM, I wouldn't hold your breathe, as just like Vista RTM, the kernel was replaced, not upgraded. To qualify as an upgrade you would still have to be using the same Vista kernel with improvements, NOT a different kernel which Microsoft has done using Windows Server 2008. Evidently, Windows Server 2008 is where Microsoft is keeping all it's eggs in a basket, so it had better work, or you can image, NOT only WHS v2, but Vista SP1 and Windows Server 2008 will all be experiencing a devastating blow... I predict WHS v2 will be a completely different experience, with different functions and capabilities. MSWHS should dedicate a web page about all the ideas us customers want to see in WHS v2. You can bet better streaming media, wireless connectivity, print server support will be wanted. How about you? Early adapters were mostly beta testers, as the WHS product still remains with many issues, all based upon Windows Server 2003 with the additional lame WHS management console and suspected WHS Drive Extender code causing data corruption.

http://www.support.microsoft.com/kb/946676

Hopefully Microsoft will get WHS v2 working without data corruption! But as for upgrades from WHS RTM, I wouldn’t hold your breathe, as just like Vista RTM, the kernel was replaced, not upgraded. To qualify as an upgrade you would still have to be using the same Vista kernel with improvements, NOT a different kernel which Microsoft has done using Windows Server 2008.

Evidently, Windows Server 2008 is where Microsoft is keeping all it’s eggs in a basket, so it had better work, or you can image, NOT only WHS v2, but Vista SP1 and Windows Server 2008 will all be experiencing a devastating blow…

I predict WHS v2 will be a completely different experience, with different functions and capabilities.

MSWHS should dedicate a web page about all the ideas us customers want to see in WHS v2. You can bet better streaming media, wireless connectivity, print server support will be wanted. How about you?

]]> By: Jonathan http://mswhs.com/2008/02/08/whs-version-2-between-june-and-december-2008/#comment-7153 Jonathan Fri, 08 Feb 2008 19:06:27 +0000 http://mswhs.wordpress.com/2008/02/08/whs-version-2-between-june-and-december-2008/#comment-7153 In following what JohnCz said, what about the earlier adopters? I LOVE my WHS, and happily got my copy after my RC expired. Do you think there would be any type of upgrade process for users like myself? In following what JohnCz said, what about the earlier adopters? I LOVE my WHS, and happily got my copy after my RC expired. Do you think there would be any type of upgrade process for users like myself?

]]> By: JohnCz http://mswhs.com/2008/02/08/whs-version-2-between-june-and-december-2008/#comment-7152 JohnCz Fri, 08 Feb 2008 19:03:20 +0000 http://mswhs.wordpress.com/2008/02/08/whs-version-2-between-june-and-december-2008/#comment-7152 This makes alot of sense from a product management standpoint. WHS based on Server 2008 Core will help align WHS with current/future offerings & streamline support. Now is the time to do that before the install base gets too big and complicate things. It also better positions them to offer Media Center capabilities/extensions to WHS. Thats inevitable if you ask me. The question is, will current WHS OEM customers be able to upgrade? Lets hope they treat early adopters kindly. This makes alot of sense from a product management standpoint. WHS based on Server 2008 Core will help align WHS with current/future offerings & streamline support. Now is the time to do that before the install base gets too big and complicate things. It also better positions them to offer Media Center capabilities/extensions to WHS. Thats inevitable if you ask me. The question is, will current WHS OEM customers be able to upgrade? Lets hope they treat early adopters kindly.

]]> By: WHS Version 2 - Between June and December 2008 | Windows 2008 Security http://mswhs.com/2008/02/08/whs-version-2-between-june-and-december-2008/#comment-7151 WHS Version 2 - Between June and December 2008 | Windows 2008 Security Fri, 08 Feb 2008 18:47:12 +0000 http://mswhs.wordpress.com/2008/02/08/whs-version-2-between-june-and-december-2008/#comment-7151 [...] View original here: WHS Version 2 - Between June and December 2008 [...] [...] View original here: WHS Version 2 – Between June and December 2008 [...]

]]> By: Brendan http://mswhs.com/2008/02/08/whs-version-2-between-june-and-december-2008/#comment-7149 Brendan Fri, 08 Feb 2008 17:54:12 +0000 http://mswhs.wordpress.com/2008/02/08/whs-version-2-between-june-and-december-2008/#comment-7149 Is it just me... or has Windows Home Server vNext gone MIA from that list? Is it just me… or has Windows Home Server vNext gone MIA from that list?

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